Saturday, March 14, 2009

Update on Emily and a primer on ANC

Emily is feeling much better after they were able to control her fever and throwing up last night in the ER. She felt good today and even went and played in the park for a little while. She was sort of on a high from the tylenol and IV fluids and felt much better. This afternoon she took a three hour nap, which was good. But she did wake up with a fever of 100.0, so she's still fighting something. We don't need to be concerned about the fever, unless we get a 101.3 or higher after 4am, if we were to get that after 4am we would have to go back to the hospital and have her cultures taken again and to test her ANC level.

Today I was asked why or how does this ANC level seem to fluctuate so much from day to day? For example it was 510 on Wednesday and then 1570 last night. What is ANC? To remind you it stands for Absolute Neutrophil Count. It is not a White Blood Cell count, but is the concentration of neutrophils in the while blood cell count. ANC equals the Total WBC count multiplied by the total percentage of neutrophils (segs plus bands). So you can have a high White Blood Cell count, but a low ANC, it's rare but it is possible. Emily's Chemotherapy is immuno-suppressive, The 6MP and Methotrexate lower the immune system by suppressing the bone marrow from making things such as White Blood Cells. When any of us gets a virus or bacterial infection, our ANC gets lower, but if you are on Emily's Chemo it can drop to dangerous levels, aka Neutropenia. That is what most likely happened to Emily, she was getting this virus this week and that on top of her Chemo lowered her ANC to 510. Then we reduced the Chemo dosage, as you will remember. So her marrow started to work more efficiently and her ANC levels shot up to 1570. That's still a pretty low level but once you get above 1000 your body can fight off viruses. The BIG worry in all of this is if she were to get something like Strep or something bacterial, and if her anc were lower than 500, you can have real issues, including a high risk of death. That's why she needs to be in a ER within 30 minutes of a fever, when she is neutropenic, so they can start IV anti-biotics immediately. So to finally answer the question, Emily's ANC fluctuates a lot because we are constantly trying to control it's range with the chemo, while dealing with external forces such as virus. ANC is the main diagnostic value for Lymphomas and many types of Leukemia.

9 comments:

Anonymous said...

Dear Chris -
Thanks for the update on ANC levels, WBC counts and everything that needs to be coordinated during her treatment. I know it is a constant balance during chemo, but I forget exactly what is happening. It's good to hear from you about it so I can keep on top of things. Take care and give Emily a hug and a kiss from me.
Love, Grannie

Anonymous said...

Chris and Tracey....along with Emily you both are amazing... So on top of everything all of the time. I think about your family everyday and wish you all continued success with Emily's treatment. Thank you for all of your explanations which help us to better understand just what it is that Emily is dealing with. I am so happy that she didn't have to stay in the hospital. I am also happy that Emily was able tp make her performance at school this week....what a special day it was. Take care Emily and I hope to see you again very soon.

Mrs. Breit

Jessica Nichols said...

I am seriously going to bookmark this post because it explains white count vs. neutrophil count so well. Living with low ANC is a tricky balance, the risk of infection and sepsis is real however we need to live our lives and not be shut-ins.

Emily, I'm glad you're feeling better and I hope today is even more of an improvement. That nap was great for you! I bet you'll feel even stronger today as a result.

Anonymous said...

Dear Tracy and Chris,

I appreciate your explanation of the ANC levels. I have learned so much from you. I hope Emily feels much better. I'm thinking of you always.

Love,
Lori :)

Unknown said...

I'm glad to hear Emily is feeling better!

Anonymous said...

Emily,
Thanks so much for delivering my girl scout cookies. It was great to see you today. I was so happy to have you see my office. I hope you and Haley like the stickers. See you soon my dear.

Love,
Mrs. Breit
P.S. Your hair is the cutest ever...Mrs. Winklebleck, the lady with the brown hair that you met just loved it.

Emma said...

Hope Emily is still doing better and has fought off whatever was causing her temp to rise. Sending good (green) wishes your way!

The Wykoff Family said...

Pepper Family, We have been following Emily's progress ever since my nephew, Nick Shannon, was diagnosed with ALL. You all do such a great job of explaining the "numbers" and terminology. I hope you don't mind, but I copied a little information you had about ANC onto Nick's blog (nicholasshannonrocks.blogspot.com) to clear the air for some of our readers. Emily is a beautiful little girl and always gives us hope to see her progress as Nick is so weak right now. We all are so blessed to see the little fighters both Nick and Emily are.
Christa

Anonymous said...

Dear Emily -
Hope you are feeling GREAT today! Grampa says to tell you that the ladder to the loft will be ready for you to test when you're here on Sunday.
Love you bunches.
Grannie